The Biggest Losers (And not the TV show)

[CoolDuck]

Here are my 3 biggest losing hands of the night.  Thoughts?

Hand 1:
Player one is very loose/passive.

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Hand 2:  Opponent in position is (40, 15, 1.95)   Typically raising his good hands, but will definitely make loose calls.

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Hand 3:
Opponent in position is (40, 15, 1.95)  Same guy as in hand 2.

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Stats for today:  (21, 16, 2.73)

Went to Showdown %: 35
Won at Showdown: 36%   (ew )

[Tony]

Yeah, you know you're running bad when you see those kind of showdown stats.  I feel for you 

I think you played the first two hands well and just got unlucky.

Hand 3 I'd fold the flop.  It's tempting to raise (and if I was going to play I would) but there are a few factors which would make me lean towards just mucking it:

1. It's a 4-way pot
2. Flop is VERY coordinated
3. The preflop 3-bettor and cold-caller are yet to act, and there's a decent chance you're already behind to an overpair
4. You'll be out of position for the rest of the hand

The fact you have a gutshot is a positive, but it's only a one-card draw and the flush-draw devalues it anyway.  I wouldn't usually give much credit for the 8-high backdoor flush draw in a 4-way pot.

[CoolDuck]

Yeah, you know you're running bad when you see those kind of showdown stats.  I feel for you 

I think you played the first two hands well and just got unlucky.

Hand 3 I'd fold the flop.  It's tempting to raise (and if I was going to play I would) but there are a few factors which would make me lean towards just mucking it:

1. It's a 4-way pot
2. Flop is VERY coordinated
3. The preflop 3-bettor and cold-caller are yet to act, and there's a decent chance you're already behind to an overpair
4. You'll be out of position for the rest of the hand

The fact you have a gutshot is a positive, but it's only a one-card draw and the flush-draw devalues it anyway.  I wouldn't usually give much credit for the 8-high draw in a 4-way pot.

I didn't like just calling.  At best on the flop I have 6 outs.  I figured if I could get the pot heads up all 6 of my outs would be good against the overpair.  I think a fold is probably better. 

[verstehen]

Hand 1 is basically perfectly played, just horribly unlucky.