PokerStars may have killed Sharkscope

[MellowYellow]

PokerStars just changed their tournament setups.  They said in an effort to stop datamining they have made it so now if you havent registered in their 90 or 180 man SnGs, you cannot see what place anyone finished in.  This already has happened so Sharkscope and OPR already have no data on the new ones of these, but PokerStars said they are going to expand this to all of their SnGs soon.

Bummer that I FINALLY decided to purchase SS for the first time    I guess this is good in that people wont be able to give the fish shit at the tables, but I personally love sharkscope to track my own progress, and to be able to see how others are doing, for instance showing that it WAS possible to play 16s at 13% ROI based on the sucess of others.

I hope that this will make SS agree to do the "You must opt for us to show your stats" and then maybe they'll lift this ban, but I dont know.  Looks like PokerStars killed them this time though.

[Tony]

This doesn't surprise me to be honest, since SS has been on the Stars "banned software" list for a while now.  When I emailed them to complain about TableRatings they said they had something in pipeline to cut down on these datamining sites, so I guess this is what they were talking about.

[verstehen]

This is great news as far as I'm concerned.  The less datamining the better.

[MellowYellow]

I agree somewhat, I dont see how it cant help the game, it does get old hearing people saying LOL you have -40% ROI etc etc.

But I love checking out my own graphs on there (though I could do this on PT i guess) and I like checking out other graphs of people, not because I want to call them a fish or I wonder how good my opponents are, but like I posted in other threads, I like seeing what is possible and what others are able to do at certain levels.  I guess if PokerStars could somehow make them require people to elect to be in the data search that would be ok for the most part, but I dont know if stars would do that at this point because there are too many other sites that would just spoil it by violating the terms anyway.

Overall.. I'm

[Poker Orifice]

I don't know why they wouldn't solve the 'problem' by just banning the chat for life from the idiots who spout off other's ROI %'s.  Personally I don't bother with SharkScope but I do use another site for checking out stats. that has excellent filters on it and can be displayed in a list of all players on the table (not OPR.. is ok but is too cumbersome imo).

Tracking my own results is cool... but to be honest I like getting a read on my opponents.  Certain plays become way more transparent when you see the player is running at ROI-34% (ie. if he's getting his money in on the turn in a sng but he runs at ROI -49% chances are he's full of shit).

I think PokerStars goes overboard on some stuff, ie. 'knowing what you've got running on your computer, anytime you're logged onto their site'  That doesn't sit too well with me.  Buy-in levels I'm rolled for on Stars I don't like the games they've got running there much anyways (play is real bad in the micros... might be a good thing for some but personally in a SNG I'd prefer it if at least 1/3 of the table knew what they were doing - - a couple donks is fine but a table full of them is a recipe for disaster).

[deton8whore]

I find this problematic, and hope stars doesn't block stats for STT's. I play solely $5.40 / $10.80 double or nothings and their nightly $33 Superstack MTT and rely on stuff like sharkscope.