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« on: February 18, 2009, 09:59:35 pm »

I am pretty certain I lost more on this hand then I should have. Tell me what I did wrong.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Diamonds, Q Clubs
4 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls

Flop: (10 SB) 3 Clubs, 4 Clubs, 2 Clubs (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, 2 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls

Turn: (7 BB) 4 Hearts (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls

River: (9 BB) 2 Hearts (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls

Total pot: $22 (11 BB) | Rake: $1

Results in white below:
Button had 4, A (full house, fours over twos).
Hero mucked Q, Q (two pair, Queens and fours).
Outcome: Button won $21




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So I went ALL IN to see where I stood. If he calls I know I am behind, but if he folds $$$
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 10:59:25 pm »

I would have lost more because I would have reraised him on the flop then when he called that I would have bet out on the turn and then had to call him down when he raised me. You didn't lose more than you should have you have to at LEAST call down here. He plays this the same with A5, 66 - TT no WAY you could get away from this hand HU and honestly I think you should have reraised the flop here (unless the suits are really scary we can't see them)
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 11:18:15 pm »

I set it up so you can see the suits...

is there a hand converter i can use that will not mess up on this forum?
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 12:07:13 am »

Mel's spot on here.  At the very least you should have reraised preflop and lead the turn, then called down when he raised you.

In terms of hand history replayers, take a look at CoolDuck's recent posts and try the one he's been using to post LHE hand histories.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 12:52:09 am »

I guess I should have reraised the flop, but I figured my flush draw was no good since I did not have the K or Q. Also if he has the Ac he has a lot of outs to beat me. I felt that even though I might have the best hand on the flop. It was very likely I would not have it by the river.

Then even though I called down I felt by the river bring yet another pair on the board that there are somany hands that beat me at that point that I might need to let go and save the BB.

Arghhh so much to learn Smile

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2009, 01:28:41 am »

It's true that the ace of clubs has a lot of outs and you can't protect your hand on the flop if he has that, but remember you're out of position and what you don't want to do is let him take the free card on the turn.  Overpairs are usually the best hand on the flop even multiway, and your third nut flush draw will sometimes be the best draw.

The pot is large and if you let him draw cheaply and he hits a club then you made a big mistake not betting to protect your hand.  The larger the pot, the bigger the mistake.

So once it becomes heads up on the flop, you can either three bet and lead the turn, or just call the flop raise and donk the turn.  Either is better than letting him take the initiative on the flop and checking the turn.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 03:43:33 am »

With obvious flush draw out and the Q Clubs I'm 3-betting that flop.  Possibly check-raising that turn
if my opponent is aggressive.  Don't fear runner-runner full house, ignore the cards that fell.
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