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« on: January 06, 2009, 10:44:00 am »

PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with :6d, :6c
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 raises, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero ???

I limped because the table had been fairly passive, only about 10% of hands getting PF raises...UTG+2 was fairly loose PF (about 40%vpip).  I'm working on playing my mid-low PP's better and this situation was one I wasn't sure if I made the right play in...

MP2 had about a 27% PFR after about 20 hands and SB had about a 20% PFR.  Does the play change if SB just calls instead of raises?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 12:24:25 pm »

TBH, I forget now .....? at NL its almost always correct to call against raises with sml PP's , but here you need to be getting 8-1 and your not closing the action and it could get capped........your probably drawing to two outs ...so its a fold here Im pretty sure


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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 05:09:51 pm »

I dont think your implied odds are going to suffice against 2 opponents in a limit game.  Throwing this away is probably best.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 02:37:49 am »

I'd call this personally.  Standard advice is to look for 5:1 to call for implied odds of flopping a set.  You're only getting 4.75:1 here, however "5:1" is only a rule of thumb and you can lower this a little if you think your opponents are aggro and spewy postflop (often the case at these stakes).  Also notice that your relative position will allow you to raise the field on the flop if you hit, since the SB will bet pretty much 100% of the time on the flop.

BUT the risk you take is that MP2 caps, in which case you're only getting 3.8:1.  This won't happen often though, and when it does it increases the chances that you're up against a premium hand which in turn improves your implied odds.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 09:35:13 am »

I'd call this personally.  Standard advice is to look for 5:1 to call for implied odds of flopping a set.  You're only getting 4.75:1 here, however "5:1" is only a rule of thumb and you can lower this a little if you think your opponents are aggro and spewy postflop (often the case at these stakes).  Also notice that your relative position will allow you to raise the field on the flop if you hit, since the SB will bet pretty much 100% of the time on the flop.

BUT the risk you take is that MP2 caps, in which case you're only getting 3.8:1.  This won't happen often though, and when it does it increases the chances that you're up against a premium hand which in turn improves your implied odds.

I must be really rusty?, its correct to call a raise and reraise with a sml PP + Not closing the action?, PF?....I am surprised


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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 06:22:58 am »

Yeah tbh I think this is pretty standard, although it would obviously be better if we were last to act.  You're only 7.5:1 against flopping a set so with implied odds 5:1 is usually going to be enough.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 03:04:42 pm »

I think it's pretty close between a call and fold here so go ahead and call and then dump the hand if you miss your set, however I think you should have folded this hand preflop especially if the preflop action here is typical.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2009, 03:12:53 pm »

With 20 Hands only you get not much information about the range of hands they would raise with. As you said they were fairly passive I would have called for one bet after you limped. As they were passive it would be questionable if you would have got a lot of action if you hit your set. They might have both raised with a higher pair and I find it always very difficult to protect your hand as many players at low limits just draw to the river, ignoring your bet even if there are overcards on the board and might be lucky to hit their draw or a set.

But anyway, limp, call one raise but not two would be my opinion. If I call for two I would have made a decision before if I am willing to call another raise or fold if I am squeezed. I might have called for two if the pot was bigger or more players had called before you.
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