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« on: April 27, 2007, 04:45:17 am »

Dear All,


Easy Fold, right?

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SB: $26.30
BB: $26.65
UTG: $26.10
MP: $26.20
Hero (CO): $24.65
BTN: $35.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Qh Qc (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($3.25) 3s 5s 8d (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BTN calls $2.25, SB raises to $8.50, Hero.......................

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2nd hand

Anyone calling this?........... Is there any point?  Risk vs reward    easy fold?

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SB: $5
BB: $15.90
UTG: $2.25
Hero (MP): $8.50
CO: $8.20
BTN: $1.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ah Qc (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.45) 4h 2c 3s (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.45) 5s (3 Players)
Hero bets $0.40, CO raises to $2.80, BTN calls all-in for $1.45, Hero...........................



Thoughts and comments as usual,
 
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2007, 07:55:31 am »

2nd Hand -

Depends on how the button plays.  Can you see him calling a limp and raise before and being in with a 6 or 6-7?  If not, the wheel is probably good.  You may be splitting with the all-in pllayer, though.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2007, 10:30:41 am »

Yeah, on that first one, I guess I'd put one of them on two pair or better, and drop it.  Question for Dead:  would you drop rockets there?  If not, then why drop the Queens?

The second one, I think it's proper to bet the flop.  But otherwise, if you put one of them on an ace, go ahead and drop it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 10:54:20 am »

Yeah, on that first one, I guess I'd put one of them on two pair or better, and drop it.

Two pair?  You were probably just using that phrase as a common read in this situation eh Coughy?  But look at the cards.  Unless he had good reads, who is going to call a 4x raise, out of position, with 35, 38, or 58?  The "better" part of your phrase makes more sense.  Probably a set, maybe As 8s , maybe even 6s 7s .  Good semi-bluff opportunity too since it's not the type of flop a pre-flop raiser would hit.

These hands are why I prefer limit.  Pretty easy to play there.  Smile

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2007, 11:03:39 am »

who is going to call a 4x raise, out of position, with 35, 38, or 58? 

I see people do some strange things from the small blind.

My reads are probabilistic.  When I say "one of them on two pair or better," I'm talking about a median, not a mode.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2007, 11:53:04 am »

That's what I thought, thanks for clarifying.  I'm with ya.

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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 05:41:26 pm »

1st hand

Sb appeared to be a solid player........so given that ...what is he raising to $8.50 with? if its a flush draw wouldn't here just call as Button likes his hand too and is also along for the ride, why raise and maybe forced to fold...from either a push from me or Button?


I put him on a set, which one I didnt care.......here is the rest of the HH

...................... Hero folds, BTN raises all-in to $34.45, SB calls all-in for $16.80
Uncalled bet of $9.15 returned to BTN

Turn: ($56.10) 6h (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($56.10) 5c (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $56.10 ($2.75 Rake)

SB had 5d 5h (four of a kind, Fives) and WON (+$27.05)
BTN had Jh Jd and LOST (-$26.30)


2nd hand

Well I figured this was an easy fold.....at least one i figured had an A, I was drawing virtually dead if he had a 6 , following on from this if both had an A then I am wagering a further $2.40 and possibly more because we still have the river bet, to split 3 ways at best?


here is the rest of the HH

.................Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $1.35 returned to CO

River: ($4.75) Jd (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $4.75 ($0.20 Rake)

CO had As Tc (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON (+$2.70)
BTN had Qs Ks and LOST (-$1.85)


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Question for Dead:  would you drop rockets there?  If not, then why drop the Queens?
............ Yep, for the same reasoning


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